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Submitted By Abbie on 08/11/09
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So, what do you guys all think about this verse? I find it a little confusing. "The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!" Matthew 6:22-23

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This verse is really confusing. My firs
2 days - 3,542v
Posted 2008/11/11 - 22:41 GMT

This verse is really confusing.

My first thought was that maybe your 'eyes' are your discernment.

but i really have no clue.

I've got some good stuff on it... I jus
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2008/11/12 - 2:34 GMT

I've got some good stuff on it...

I just have to find the time to get it into some sort of order.

Hopefully tonight...:-)

hey did you ever look at what you had on the verse
2 days - 3,542v
Posted 2008/11/13 - 21:53 GMT
hey did you ever look at what you had on the verse?
Ok, I finally pulled this together...
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2008/11/15 - 1:12 GMT

Sorry it took me a while to pull it all together...

Matthew 6:22 &23

"The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!"  

Verse 22-

The idea of the first sentence -The light of the body is the eye- is that the eye lets in light.  If it did not let in light, we would be blind.

The next sentence -if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light- is telling us to be single minded.  Be single minded and you will be full of light - God and His Word.

To back this up, I have several different scriptures:

Psa 119:105  "Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path."

Jas 1:8  "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."

Mat 6:24  "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."

Verse 23-

"But therefore if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness.  If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!"

Either we will be full of light (heavenly things) or full of darkness (earthly things).  If we try to serve two masters our whole body will be full of darkness.  It casts a shadow over everything in our life.  Instead, we need to "Set your (our) affection on things above, not on things on the earth." Col. 3:2

"Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."    Matthew 6:19-21

"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."  Matthew 6:33


What I thought was so neat, is that those two verses (22 and 23) are clearly explained by the verses before them and behind them, although it doesn't seem like that at first.

I got a lot of my information from a study on those verses that my dad got off of the internet for me.  I hope it helps:)

 

 

 

Oh, and I used the King James Version, so the v
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2008/11/15 - 1:25 GMT

Oh, and I used the King James Version, so the verses are slightly different than Abbie's:)

Thanks, Tasha, that's really great. It seems so
5 days - 9,041v
Posted 2008/11/15 - 15:51 GMT

Thanks, Tasha, that's really great. It seems so simple now! We were definitely over-thinking it, I guess. In the commentary I have, it presented several different possibilities of interpretation, and I just wasn't sure. But this makes a lot of sense - thanks!

You're welcome Abbie:)  It was a lot of fu
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2008/11/17 - 3:33 GMT

You're welcome Abbie:)  It was a lot of fun:-)

Experience
1 week - 10,901v
Posted 2008/11/15 - 17:13 GMT

My interpretation may seem naive or cold as I have never read the Bible, but I thought I'd post it here anyway. "The eyes" are merely a metaphor for your senses and through it everything you experience, this way it can either lighten or blacken your soul depending on what kind of experience you gained. "The light" would thus just be a clarification how light and darkness can spread through your mind like light and shadow of a lamp. The last part of the verse seems to imply that darkness is more frequent and averagely longer than light, however, I think this is more psychological: darkness is more easily noted than light.

Just a naive interpretation from someone who has never read the Bible.

Olim

4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2008/11/17 - 3:32 GMT

Olim,

Thank you for your interest and your comments.

If you are interested in further study of the Bible, then I would highly recommend checking out BlueLetterBible.org, or getting a free download of the Bible at e-sword.net

~Edith~

 

Logic
1 week - 10,901v
Posted 2008/11/17 - 6:38 GMT

Seeing what you wrote, my interpretation was even more naive than I initially thought :P. I do not, however, have any interest in reading the Bible; I am not Christian, I do not believe in God or any heavenly power and my answer was purely made up of logic which is not always the way of the Bible. So thank you for your interest in my interests, but I think we already have a Bible here even though I have not read it. I thought it would be interesting to see an outsider's view, wasn't it?

Olim

Man. I can't even imagine not being a Christian
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Posted 2008/11/21 - 4:48 GMT

Man. I can't even imagine not being a Christian. Not having anyone to talk to when I'm physically alone, not having anyone to lean on in the hard times. I think I'd just lay down and be weak, instead of standing and being a pillar for unbelievers to lean on. I'm so sorry for Olim. Even though I'm just 11 in age, I know that I couldn't go on without God, and that I (nor anyone else) would be here without Him. He is the Father of all orphans. He is my Father, and my Friend. I have an earthly father, but I have to have Him.

Growing up
1 week - 10,901v
Posted 2008/11/21 - 6:56 GMT

Look, this is not a punishment, it is a choice. A choice made mostly by me. Where I come from, people hardly have any religion, we are accustomed to this. Do not think it makes life harder or less pleasant, most poeople here actually think that it is quite the opposite and that a religion-free life brings more freedom than having a religion. It is how we grow up as well, nobody here is christian, in fact I think there are more (former immigrant) muslims here than christians :P. Like I said, I do not need a religion, do not feel sorry for me: it is how I grew and will grow up, just like you grew up like a christian.

Olim, I do not think Jo Bug realized yo
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2008/11/21 - 7:14 GMT

Olim,

I do not think Jo Bug realized you could read her comment.  She was unaware that our Bible Talk post was posted anywhere other than our own personal blog. 

Yes, the circumstances in which we were born into do bend us in the direction we will grow.

~Edith~

Intruding
1 week - 10,901v
Posted 2008/11/21 - 16:57 GMT

One day, I thought it would be nice to visit one of Aubrey's projects other than Mars Explorer, so I went to Plexpedia. Here, I saw more posts than on Mars Explorer's content page. One of the posts was called Bible talk! and since I mostly enjoy discussions over religions and ethical matters, I thought it would be interesting to blend in. There was no intention, however, to break into any personal blogs or posts. If I did so, please tell me and I will remove myself from these topics.

Olim

Sorry, Olim. You had no way of knowing that thi
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Posted 2008/11/21 - 17:09 GMT

Sorry, Olim. You had no way of knowing that this was a personal blog. And we didn't realize that everything was posting on PlexPedia, so its our fault. We changed the setting now, so don't worry about it =)

Apologies
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Posted 2008/11/21 - 20:38 GMT

No no no, I am the one who needs to apologise. I should have known it was something else when I discovered this (pleasantly) surprising post about something a bit more in-depth than Mars Explorer. Again, I am sorry for the inconvenience, do you have any idea what might have caused your posts to appear on Plexpedia? Anyways, I am glad than it is fixed now, though :).

I'm glad you've commented! And you don't need t
2 days - 4,412v
Posted 2008/11/21 - 20:53 GMT

I'm glad you've commented! And you don't need to apologize!            I hope you except my apology for seeming pushy. I didn't mean to. Sometimes I just, sort of, don't know how to say things, and they come out wrong.

Aubrey has many fascinating projects, and I wou
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2008/11/21 - 17:10 GMT

Aubrey has many fascinating projects, and I would encourage you to check them all out!:-)

We did have a problem with some of our posts (which we did not want others to see) posting on PlexPedia.  With the new updates (and bug fixes) on PlexPedia, Aubrey has fixed that. 

We do not mind having you post your comments on our Bible Talk post, which is why we reposted it to PlexPedia.  Since none of our other posts will be posted to PlexPedia, "breaking into" our personal blog is not an issue, so don't worry about it:)

~Edith~

Olim, I want to thank you for replying...
5 days - 9,041v
Posted 2008/11/21 - 14:56 GMT

Olim, I want to thank you for replying to my Bible question.

I'm sorry if any of this has made you feel as though we are trying to force Christianity down your throat - we don't want to do that. We only want to share with anyone and everyone how wonderful the Lord is to us. 

But, we each have our own freedom and a choice, thank goodness, and we respect your choice, even if we don't agree with it.

Thank you again for your input, Olim =)

- Abbie

Yeah, sorry if I made you feel like that. If yo
2 days - 4,412v
Posted 2008/11/21 - 19:27 GMT

Yeah, sorry if I made you feel like that Olim. If you don't mind my asking, where do you come from? I mean, you don't have to reply to that if you don't want to or anything, just wondering.

         I know it was your choice. And I respect that, so don't feel mad. (Do you mind my praying for you?)

 

P.S. Just from these few comments, you write really good! Do you like to read? Even if you don't, you could write a really good book! =)

No need
1 week - 10,901v
Posted 2008/11/21 - 20:51 GMT

Again, I am the one here to apologise, not you; it would not have been a problem even if it did not belong to a personal blog which was not for me to read. Where I come from? Sure, I was born, grew up and live in the Netherlands (also known as Holland). This country has as main religion Christianity, however, this only occurs in certain areas. Mostly in the "Bible belt", this "line" runs all the way from the southwest to the northwest of the country. This may seem big, but it is not very long as the Netherlands is a very small country :P. Of course I do not feel mad, I was just explaining, I can get a little over-excited when involved in ethical and religious issues :P. You can pray all you like, that is your decision, just as it is mine is that I do not think it will help a lot :P. (Three :P-s in a row!)

PS. Thank you, yes, I read a lot and I am preparing for the IB-exam in a few years (I do not know wether you have heard of it, you can google it). I have, in fact, been thinking about writing a book later on, I am still in school, so I will wait for a bit  :P.

Hey guys, what does it mean to be 'in the world
2 days - 4,412v
Posted 2008/11/21 - 21:36 GMT

Hey guys, what does it mean to be 'in the world but not of it'? I know I have asked some one about it before, but I forgot the answer!

 

                                 ~The Bug~

Why don't you create a new post Jo Bug, and pos
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2008/11/21 - 21:48 GMT

Why don't you create a new post Jo Bug, and post that question on our blog?  This particular discussion is getting kind of full...:-)

Ok. I'll do just that.
2 days - 4,412v
Posted 2008/11/23 - 1:08 GMT

Ok. I'll do just that.


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