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Freedom and Liberty?????
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What are these people talking about
Submitted By ronnies_evil_twin on 10/01/06
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I have heard people on this site discuss losing their freedoms and liberty. Exactly what are they talking about? Going through a metal detector at work? Freedom to carry a gun? What freedom is being denied, what liberty is being quelled.

Exactly what are these people wanting to do that the government is preventing them from? Are there unknown government agents going around and burning down churches?
Is there a secret government agency that is breaking into their homes to disrupt the dinner prayer?
Personally, I think they just don't like who is in charge and it is sort of a way to bitch when they don't have anything to bitch about.

Has our secret muslim president restricted your freedom and liberty in any way. Has our democratic congress passed any laws preventing you from doing something you want to do.

Please, explain to me EXACTLY what you want to do that the federal government is preventing you from doing?
Now please note that if you give me an answer like, teacher led prayer in school....i would like to know why you have chosen THIS time to bitch about it...instead of when someone else was in office and another party was in power. (Additionally, Congress and the president can't do much about prayer in school...short of amending the constitution. That is the supreme court's call)

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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
2 hours - 62v
Posted 2010/01/06 - 12:23 GMT
can you not see? Do you walk blindly down the streets? Do you mute the news? The signs are all around us, but those who read them are easily and quickly dismissed as madmen.

In demise shall the West fall on evening twilight.
Scorching infernoes rising from the eastern dawn.
Alas. Scorched and burnt is the south.
The northern light shall shine bright once more, but it be a mere illusion for hope.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
1 day - 2,617v
Posted 2010/01/06 - 13:07 GMT
Anthony.

This man does not care about truth. He is fixed on deceiving young Christians into losing their faith. I've already caught him in many lies.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
5 days - 8,142v
Posted 2010/01/06 - 16:11 GMT
"This man does not care about truth. He is fixed on deceiving young Christians into losing their faith. I've already caught him in many lies."
 
you haven't even caught us in 1 LIE!
how about you back up your claim with an ACTUAL QUOTE AN A REBUTTAL?
all you do is bitch your paranoia, but when it comes ot providing actual evidence, you fal moot, or spam your repeat button.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
3 days - 4,645v
Posted 2010/01/11 - 4:11 GMT
I've already caught him in many lies.
 
And can you back that claim up in any way?
 
Note: that's a rhetorical questions, since we both know that you're either too much of a coward (or just too stupid) to stand by this, or any of the ridiculous claims you've posted here.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
5 days - 8,142v
Posted 2010/01/06 - 16:09 GMT
"In demise shall the West fall on evening twilight.
Scorching infernoes rising from the eastern dawn.
Alas. Scorched and burnt is the south.
The northern light shall shine bright once more, but it be a mere illusion for hope. "
 
 
OOOOOH...
beware of china...
 
riiight.
 
at least i educate myself  on interntional relations.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
3 days - 4,645v
Posted 2010/01/11 - 4:03 GMT
The signs are all around us, but those who read them are easily and quickly dismissed as madmen.
 
...and apparently the signs are SO self-evident that you can't even cite a single example. Funny, that.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
1 minute - 1v
Posted 2010/01/06 - 13:39 GMT
"can you not see? Do you walk blindly down the streets? Do you mute the news? The signs are all around us, but those who read them are easily and quickly dismissed as madmen"

Anthony, I asked for specifically how we were losing our freedom and liberty? What freedom are you losing specifically?

"In demise shall the West fall on evening twilight.
Scorching infernoes rising from the eastern dawn.
Alas. Scorched and burnt is the south.
The northern light shall shine bright once more, but it be a mere illusion for hope."

Anthony, congratulations. You just made the terrorist watchlist.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
1 minute - 1v
Posted 2010/01/06 - 13:45 GMT
Ronnie, couple of points I want to point out that you quite possibly missed.

1) I could care less what you believe. What I do not like is your constant spreading lies about scientific research. Scientists try to further mandkind's knowledge while fools like you try to thwart that advancement of knowledge. You deny evolution, big bang, geologic column formation, radiometric dating, heliocentric theory, fossil discoveries and many other scientific theories or principles. You knowingly spread lies and are unable to back up ANY of your lies with ANY scientific evidence. All you say is "God Dun It". Believe that if you wish. However, please stop spreading lies regarding scientific research. I think you and people like you are a very large impediment to the growth of knowledge. 2) Please name ONE lie you have "caught" me in? Now, becasue we disagree about a particular issue (Republican's good....Democrat's Bad or vice versa) does not make one of us out to be a liar. Please name one FACT that i have lied about please.
3) You seem to have made friends with Anthony who appears to advocate for scorching the West (as in America). You love this country so much that you would like to see it burned up? Again i ask you Ronnie..why do you hate America???
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5 days - 8,142v
Posted 2010/01/06 - 16:12 GMT
"3) You seem to have made friends with Anthony who appears to advocate for scorching the West (as in America). You love this country so much that you would like to see it burned up? Again i ask you Ronnie..why do you hate America???"
 
that was probably a prophetic warmign from anthony....not an actual threat.
 
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
2 hours - 62v
Posted 2010/01/06 - 17:45 GMT
never have i said the west shall fall by the hands of another.

No terror shall befall the west, instead it shall cause the south to glow in kindle.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
1 minute - 1v
Posted 2010/01/06 - 18:25 GMT
"No terror shall befall the west, instead it shall cause the south to glow in kindle."

Ohhhh Anthony can see into the future. Goody? I have a few questions regarding the future Anthony?

1) Stock in the Next 5 years. Buy or Sell??"
2) Brad and Anglina- Stay together or Divroce?
3) Will John and Kate get back together?
4) Which Republican Gay Basher will be next to get caught in a homosexual encounter.????
5) Will Tiger ever get back the public's trust?
6) Will Ronnie educate himself?
7) When and were will the next terrorist attack take place.?
8) Will Sarah Palin be the Republican nominee for president in 2112.??? (Man she is dumb but smokin hot)
9) Will Tiger Woods convert to christianity..and if so...what specific religion?
10) When will Ronnie move out of his parent's house? (Admit it Ronnie...you live with your parent's still)
11) When will convicted fraudster Kent Hovind get released from Federal Prison?
12) Could you tell me the super bowl, NBA championship, and World Series winners for the next 5 years?
13) Alabama is layin 4 points to texas tomorrow night. Should i take the 4 and texas...or lay the points and take Bama? Any thoughts about Texas and the moneyline?
14) Bama/Texas over/under is +46. That seems a bit high to me. Should i go with the under? And if so...should i parlay the Over/Under with the game bet or two seperate bets? I know....that is a tough one. Screw it..just tell me the final score of Texas/Alabama Game tomorrow night please. PLEASE
15) Will Ronnie defy his God and have (cover your ears Ronnie) premarital sex? If so...will the guy he does it with like it? Sorry Ronnie....cheap shot...but all in good fun?
16) Next year....do i nail my neighbors wife (again)...or was this just a once or twice kinda thing?

Thanx Anthony. Any help you can give me on these questions is appreciated. Oh....and can you please try to be more specific than your previous predictions. Those were kinda vague.

Ps. Ronnie...it's now time for you to steal my joke and ask anthony questions. However, I think only GOD knows the future. Wouldn't asking Anthony about the future be some sort of a sin?
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
2 hours - 62v
Posted 2010/01/06 - 19:24 GMT
a blue moon and three eclipses
a dawn and a dusk

dawn shall rise for those who require it. And dusk shall befall the minds of the physical.

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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
3 days - 4,645v
Posted 2010/01/11 - 4:13 GMT
a blue moon and three eclipses
a dawn and a dusk

dawn shall rise for those who require it. And dusk shall befall the minds of the physical.
 
Hey, I think I've read that Tolkien novel too.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
5 days - 8,142v
Posted 2010/01/07 - 14:39 GMT
¨16) Next year....do i nail my neighbors wife (again)...or was this just a once or twice kinda thing?¨
 
still in good fun?
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
1 minute - 1v
Posted 2010/01/06 - 20:31 GMT
"a blue moon and three eclipses
a dawn and a dusk
dawn shall rise for those who require it. And dusk shall befall the minds of the physical."

Okay, gocha. Take the points w/ Texas and don't mess with the over under. Thanx anthony.

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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
2 hours - 62v
Posted 2010/01/06 - 23:41 GMT
and the world shall stand without movement on it's pillars
and from the four corners shall we collide in arms.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
1 minute - 1v
Posted 2010/01/07 - 2:13 GMT
"and the world shall stand without movement on it's pillars
and from the four corners shall we collide in arms."

Gocha. Ronnie is gonna knock over the coffee table and get kicked out of his parent's 4 corner house. Good to know.

Please keep up the creepy profecies
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
2 hours - 62v
Posted 2010/01/07 - 8:11 GMT
Those who do not understand, wishes to.
Those who do understand, wishes to forget.
Enlightenment is a usefull gift,
But it asks much.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
5 days - 8,142v
Posted 2010/01/07 - 14:41 GMT
¨Those who do not understand, wishes to.
Those who do understand, wishes to forget.
Enlightenment is a usefull gift,
But it asks much.¨
 
are you done now? and can you actually provide somethign meaningfull to this discussion.
otherwise i´ll also start pullling up prophecies.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
2 hours - 62v
Posted 2010/01/07 - 15:37 GMT
once, united and we stood proud.
But after evening twilight all shall tremble in the night.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
10 hours - 500v
Posted 2010/01/07 - 16:29 GMT
Fear leads to the dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
3 days - 4,645v
Posted 2010/01/11 - 4:19 GMT
once, united and we stood proud.
But after evening twilight all shall tremble in the night.
 
Not bad, but "by the pricking of my thumbs/ something wicked this way comes" has a much nicer poetic ring to it.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
2 hours - 62v
Posted 2010/01/07 - 20:08 GMT
alas a faceless mirror shall come before those who hold dear their identity.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
3 days - 4,645v
Posted 2010/01/11 - 4:21 GMT
alas a faceless mirror shall come before those who hold dear their identity.
 
Why does the porridge bird lay his eggs in the air? Shoes for industry!
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
2 hours - 62v
Posted 2010/01/09 - 21:13 GMT
okay. None of these made any sense what so ever, obviously.
The basic reason i'm doing things like this is to 'explore' the people on this site. You might have come across something like this reply previously. I am looking at how people react towards certain things i do, this was one of them.
I always loved seeing how those around me especially my friends reacted to scenarios i placed them in.
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Re: Freedom and Liberty?????
3 days - 4,645v
Posted 2010/01/11 - 4:17 GMT
I don't have much of a clue
 
That is, without a doubt, the most accurate AND honest thing that a creationist has posted here.


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