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Links and resources for understanding evolution etc.
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Submitted By Ellman on 09/06/20
FreeHovind, Ellman, Creation and Evolution
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National Academia Press about evolution vs creation:
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6024&page=1 U.S. National Academy of Sciences site: http://www.nationalacademies.org/evolution/ National Center For Science Education statements about evolution: http://ncseweb.org/media/voices/science Berkely University's biology departments webiste about evolution, evidence list and descriptions of them: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/home.php Simple evidence and descriptions from Palomar Colleage: http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm How a scientifc paper on this subject looks like: http://www.bioweb.uncc.edu/Biol4111/Fall/cheetah%201985%20.pdf Now i would like to see a SCIENTIFIC PAPER FROM CREATIONISM! 
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Re: Links and resources for understanding evolution etc.
2009/06/24 - 0:34 GMT
(In Reply to Item) There will be nothing either. Creationism/Intelligent design is not science. It ignores any evidence to the contrary and doesn't even make logical sense. ID cannot explain the distribution of both similarities and differences. It simply focuses on the similarities and says, "See that, they are related by common designer." However, this simply is ridiculous when you stop to think for two seconds. Why are we (humans) more similar to apes than to fish? Why are chickens different from zebras? If we all have a common designer, everything should be structured the same way and operate the same way. Evolution accounts for the distribution of both similarities and difference and there is no known evidence to violate its classification system. Simply finding something that does violate its taxonomy would be a simple way of disproving evolution. Yet, no one has even been able to do that.
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Re: Links and resources for understanding evolution etc.
2009/06/24 - 1:25 GMT
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yep, only answer you're gonna get by that post is "wrong" or "nope, incorrect". I talked to a creationist some days ago about the fact that there are no scientific papers made by creationists on this subject at all. I gave him the paper i could find that tried to mimic a scientific paper the most and made a comparison of that and a paper on cheetah genetics. He called me a dumbass and said that the paper i had choosen was for the regular man and the other was for fellow evolutionist scientists and you couldn't compare them because of that. He refused to give me any paper to replace the "bad" one...
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Re: Links and resources for understanding evolution etc.
2009/06/24 - 21:01 GMT
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Yes, I've had many similar experiences.
I also love the "evolve that" arguments that consist of, "if you can't tell me EXACTLY how this happened then evolution is false and I'm right." Pure nonsense . . . even if evolution were false (which it is not), that doesn't automatically make an unsupported idea true by default.
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2009/07/04 - 15:35 GMT
(In Reply to Item) bigdog, 9tails and kent fail again when the push comes to shove.
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Re: Links and resources for understanding evolution etc.
2009/07/15 - 8:32 GMT
(In Reply to Item) i was away for 1 week and still no answer... You guys dissapoint me!
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Re: Links and resources for understanding evolution etc.
2009/07/20 - 13:57 GMT
(In Reply to Item) 9tails and bigdog, this isn't looking good...
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Re: Links and resources for understanding evolution etc.
2009/07/29 - 2:27 GMT
(In Reply to Item) well this has been out for a month and i hereby declare it science win. bigdog, i forbidd you to post anymore of that nonsense articles from ICR or discovery institute as they are not more scientific than my book report about the bible in 5th grade. |
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