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how would you date.
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lets do a little test.
Submitted By thebiblewascompiledin325AD on 09/04/01
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ok.
lets soo how creationists date.
 
lets say we find a set of bones with cut marks on them about 30 metres deep in a desert environment.
 
now.
there are only a few bones.
they aren't fossilized.
they lie in 1 strata layer.
the bones aren't bleached.
there are no other remains near here (so no tools, or other remaisn.)
 
HOW would you date this find, creationists?

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Re: how would you date.
1 day - 1,984v
Posted 2009/04/02 - 16:58 GMT
How would i date it? well i guess I'd take it out to dinner, maybe get a bottle of wine, some pasta primavera, Long island restaurant week is coming up...
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Re: how would you date.
5 days - 8,142v
Posted 2009/04/02 - 18:58 GMT
cmn joe, lets stay on topic.
i want to see creationist dating.
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Re: how would you date.
3 days - 4,645v
Posted 2009/04/02 - 20:00 GMT
Heh.
 
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Re: how would you date.
12 hours - 1,085v
Posted 2009/04/03 - 3:19 GMT
Yeah, not so surprised that there's no real answers being provided. I'm off to find some new forums to debate on, I need something a bit higher level. I'm trying this one:

http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dBoard.cgi

Join me if you want.
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Re: how would you date.
4 days - 5,621v
Posted 2009/04/03 - 5:04 GMT

I think that you would have to guess. You could carbon date it. But that wouldn't really be reliable by itself. Without a more definate clue, it would be guessing.
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Re: how would you date.
5 days - 8,142v
Posted 2009/04/03 - 10:54 GMT
omg bigdog.
i gave enough parameters to make at least and educated hypothesis. and you could have at least asked for more information. XD i left out a lot of information which you could have gotten by observation on site. i did this on purpose so you would ask for more information.
 
for starters
we find only a few bones all of which belong to 1 set.
so we have at least a part of animal.
 
the bones arent bleached so they werent exposed a lot of sunlight when they were buried.
 
this makes you think. 30 metres down? maby the environment wasn't desert back then? shadows cast by plants would explain the unbleached bones.
probably this animalk was dismemebered by a preditor. only a few bones are found.
 
after coming up with al lthis you could then ask for more information. liiike.
where there any marks on the bones?
waht kind of bones where they?
what is the strata layer they where found in?
 
since the bones aren't fossilized we coul do a carbon dating, but of course we could also look at the composition of the strata layer and the composition of the same layer in surroundign areas.
 
i never implied that this was the ONLY information on the bones. if you don't ask you won't know.
with mroe information gathered fro further study you CAN make an fairly accurate guess on the ages of these bones.
 
so lets say:
the bones are homonid, small and contain little calcium and so probably that of a small child.
the contained teeth marks
there are 2 strata layers above (1 savanna and 1 desert)
the strata layer it was found in showed traces of large quantaties of plant life.
carbon dating gives 15000-16 000 years.
surrounding sites show delta formations.
 
so we can make a hypothasis on this.
15 000-16 000 years ago the area was a flood plain, with some scrub and tree growth.
a homonid child was grabbed by  apredetor and dismembered (predetor had hirarchy?) a piece of the child was taken and consumened in a shadowed area.
the bones where probably covered when the flood plain flooded the shadowed area.
 
this hypothesis would suggest:
predetation on homonids.
homonid poresence in this region.
the homonisd population might not have dressed their children or adorned them.
and probably soem other things. but you get the idea...
 
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Re: how would you date.
5 days - 8,142v
Posted 2009/04/03 - 10:55 GMT
but that entire story ois more of a rant then a point.
 
the point was that you should have asked for more information.
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Re: how would you date.
1 day - 1,411v
Posted 2009/04/12 - 9:04 GMT
Start with coffee and light conversation. Still tellin people how to do their research eh 325?
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Re: how would you date.
5 days - 8,142v
Posted 2009/04/12 - 10:14 GMT
"Start with coffee and light conversation. Still tellin people how to do their research eh 325?"
 
someone has to teach you people critical thinking, honest logical reasoning and the scientific method.
might as well be me.
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Re: how would you date.
3 days - 4,645v
Posted 2009/04/12 - 19:04 GMT
Still tellin people how to do their research eh 325?
 
 
When you repeatedly demonstrate that you don't know how to do it yourself, what do you expect?
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Re: how would you date.
1 day - 1,411v
Posted 2009/04/13 - 0:50 GMT
I expect logic. Suppose I went to far again.
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Re: how would you date.
5 days - 8,142v
Posted 2009/04/13 - 8:25 GMT
I expect logic. Suppose I went to far again."
 
ehm..lol..troll?
 
u expected logic, i though is was an valid answer to th equestion you implied:
"why do you bother?"


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