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Creationists go on the offensive
Submitted By bigdog on 09/02/16
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(http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=88878) War of words erupts over Darwin billboards Creationists fire back with own signs, declare 'payback time' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: February 13, 2009 11:35 pm Eastern By Drew Zahn © 2009 WorldNetDaily The first Rhea County billboard, from the Freedom from Religion Foundation In the same county of Tennessee where the 1925 Scopes Monkey Trial debating evolution was held, the controversial topic has been raised again: this time in a battle of competing billboards. The first shot was fired by the Wisconsin-based Freedom from Religion Foundation, which installed a billboard on U.S. Highway 27 entering Rhea County, Tenn., reading "Praise Darwin � Evolve beyond belief," commemorating the father of evolutionary theory Charles Darwin's 200th birthday. But Rhea County is the home of Dayton, Tenn., where the Scopes Trial was held, and Bryan College, named after William Jennings Bryan, who argued successfully in the famous court case that teaching evolution was a crime under Tennessee law in 1925. Now one Dayton mother has taken offense at the FFRF billboard and successfully invited other Rhea County residents to fund a billboard of their own. "We're supposed to lie down and take it and say, 'Jesus loves you,'" argued June Griffin, spearhead of the counter-Darwin billboard campaign. "Well this is payback time." (Go here to read story; http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=88878)

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Nothing more refreshing than a little theist
2 days - 3,026v
Posted 2009/02/16 - 6:35 GMT
Nothing more refreshing than a little theist publicity. I'm so used to liberal society advocating evolution and never mentioning creation, except in ridicule. Billboards no less, very good tactic. I could rent some airtime on some local billboards for traffic out here on I-40. Imagine the range of notice.
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I'm so used to liberal society a
3 days - 4,645v
Posted 2009/02/16 - 18:50 GMT
I'm so used to liberal society advocating evolution and never mentioning creation, except in ridicule.
 
Yes, yes - woe be unto you, the poor, poor oppressed majority.
 
 
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They even used
3 days - 3,596v
Posted 2009/02/16 - 12:39 GMT
They even used "evolutionists".
 
I am sure that is going to be effective.
 
Thank you for posting though.
4 days - 5,621v
Posted 2009/02/16 - 14:51 GMT
My pleasure.
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"Go" on the offensive?
3 days - 4,645v
Posted 2009/02/16 - 18:53 GMT
When have creationists ever *not* been on the offensive?
 
"We're supposed to lie down and take it and say, 'Jesus loves you,'" argued June Griffin, spearhead of the counter-Darwin billboard campaign. "Well this is payback time."
 
So she has no problem ignoring the core values that she supposedly lives by, as long as it's in the service of getting revenge? How very Christian of her.
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Posted 2009/02/16 - 20:39 GMT
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That's right! and if you keep thinking bad thought
4 days - 5,621v
Posted 2009/02/16 - 22:16 GMT
That's right! and if you keep thinking bad thoughts I'm going to make you come to church with me (lol)! Seriously we are just tired of being taught this outdated theory of evolution and we want equal time to question it, challenge it, and present problems with evolution in public settings and in public schools. That's what made this country great. FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Keep science free as well.
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Question it all you want but saying Creationi
3 days - 3,596v
Posted 2009/02/16 - 22:43 GMT
Question it all you want but saying Creationism is a scientific alternative is not intellectually honest.
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Seriously we are just tired of b
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Posted 2009/02/17 - 0:48 GMT
Seriously we are just tired of being taught this outdated theory of evolution
 
Do you also rail against those dang outdated Newtonian physics? They're even older than Darwin's theories, after all.
 
And if the theory of evolution is so outdated, then what exactly does that make creationism? Seeing as it's several thousand years older.
 
and we want equal time to question it, challenge it, and present problems with evolution in public settings
 
I don't see anyone stopping you or any other creationists... Except for Hovind, but that's what happens when you defraud the federal government.
 
and in public schools.
 
That's putting the cart before the horse. Public school science education is (at best) a distillation of the current consensus views of the scientific community.
 
There is a long, long road that any theory must travel before it would even be considered for inclusion in a public school text book. It's laughable to try to force creationism into schools when it hasn't been accepted by even a significant minority of the scientific community - that's effectively an admission that creation "science" can't survive the scrutiny of the scientific process.
 
That's what made this country great. FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Keep science free as well.
 
Science isn't about egalitarianism. If you have two theories, and one is much better-supported than the other, then you don't keep the poorly-supported theory around out of "fairness." It gets tossed on the intellectual scrap heap.
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You keep suggesting that teaching people that we c
4 days - 5,621v
Posted 2009/02/17 - 17:22 GMT
You keep suggesting that teaching people that we come from animals is a legitimate theory. It's reiculous and it's has been debunked. We don't come from fish and monkeys. That is not scientific no matter how much you believe it.
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The only theory with a factual basis for the
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Posted 2009/02/17 - 19:08 GMT
The only theory with a factual basis for the origin of the species as they exist and the diversity of life is evolution. If you have a valid theory that fits the evidence then present it and let it be reviewed.
 
I know it offends your religion but it is still the truth.
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Well, based on the evidence, evolution throug
1 day - 1,984v
Posted 2009/02/17 - 21:50 GMT
Well, based on the evidence, evolution through natural selection seems to be the best answer, whereas according to your book of myth, we are meant to believe something with absolutely NO evidence supporting it whatsoever, and plenty of evidence against it.
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That's just your opinion
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Posted 2009/02/17 - 20:07 GMT
That's just your opinion
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I'm glad to see people stand up for good chri
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Posted 2009/02/17 - 22:19 GMT
I'm glad to see people stand up for good christian values and beliefs in this country. Evolution was created by people that dislike the idea of god and gives the ungodly an alternative to believing the obvious. It was a silly notion then and is still a sill notion today, but more popular.
 
The Evolution approach is dismissing the evidence and observations and replacing it with the "because I said so" approach. There 3 kinds of people that believe in Evolution;
 
1) Those that passively believe because they were told that (like in school).
 
2) Those that aggressively believe, not understanding it, because they dislike the idea of god.
 
3) Those that aggressively believe, understanding it, disliking the idea of god.
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So how do you explain someone like Ken Miller
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Posted 2009/02/17 - 22:31 GMT
So how do you explain someone like Ken Miller? He is a devout Christian but also knows that evolution is the theory that best fits the evidence. If you want to believe in a god that uses deception to trick people then you can but the simpler explanation is that a natural process like evolution is at play.
 
http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/
http://www.templeton.org/belief/essays/miller.pdf
 
Evolution has nothing to do with God.
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Your right Ben thats very simple. Do you have any
1 day - 1,411v
Posted 2009/02/18 - 8:14 GMT
Your right Ben thats very simple. Do you have anything substancial?
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Well Brother, tell me what you want and I am
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Posted 2009/02/19 - 13:19 GMT
Well Brother, tell me what you want and I am sure if it is possible (nothing silly like evidence of man with dinosaurs) we can get it for you.


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