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Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
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Submitted By TheCyberMan on 13/05/28
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This Discussion originally posted in the "Mars Explorer" Group

The following is Aubrey's email reply, regarding my concerns on the future of mars:
 
Salutations!


I released Mars Explorer under a CC BY-SA 3.0 license because I wanted
to give everyone an equal chance to enjoy and further something I had
invested a couple years of my life in. I am currently working full
time as a lead developer for http://Kochava.com, and enjoying a
small-town outdoors-oriented lifestyle in Northern idaho:
https://plus.google.com/u/1/102772169006258784392/posts/hAYNQVha7CX
https://plus.google.com/u/1/102772169006258784392/posts/YZg7gq6Bhar
https://plus.google.com/u/1/102772169006258784392/posts

I look forward to continuing Syn3h at some point in the future, but
rest assured that there is no need for concern over the idea that
"Both games are incredibly alike and presumably headed down similar
paths". Sister communities is precisely what I had envisioned.


You are more than welcome to commercially benefit from anything you
build that leverages Mars Explorer, and I am not interested in
receiving royalties from your efforts. Go fourth and conquer!
In that spirit, I encourage you to reconsider embracing an open-source
model. The benefits include security through proper engineering rather
than obscurity; increased exposure for your project; and the ability
for others to learn from, be inspired by, and contribute to, the work
you will do. Syn3h will be fully open sourced, and I'd hate for you to
be at a competitive and technological disadvantage :)

Mars Explorer's CC license requires that all derivative works remain
open source, but if you are certain that you would like to conduct
further development in a proprietary fashion, I would be glad to
re-license it specifically for you. In this case, I think it would be
appropriate to use a differentiating name / logo for the new project
as well as a new web presence.

To facilitate the migration of user accounts to your new forum, I can
provide you with Mars Explorer's complete membership database. This
info was voluntarily entrusted to me for safekeeping - and I feel a
responsibility to maintain that trust while passing the info along -
so I will first encrypt each user's personal information with that
user's password, then salt+hash the individual passwords. The instant
anyone uses their username and password in your new system, you will
be able to check the hashed password for a match and then decrypt the
rest of their info.

The iOS version of Mars Explorer is a trivial project compared to the
desktop codebase, and I don't want to see anything too similar to it
in the App Store, but I would love to provide sample code /
suggestions for any mobile projects you are working on.


May you meet with great success and fulfillment,


-Aubrey
P.S. Feel free to share on the Mars forum if you think anyone would be
interested.

All the best,

-Aubrey
http://AubreyFalconer.com
 
 
What do you all think? How would you reply? Share your thoughts below!
 
 
Sincerely,
 
 
Eric

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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
6 days - 21,100v
Posted 2013/05/28 - 2:51 GMT
wow! first I would like to say congrats to Aubrey!! he done seems to have his life all setup in front of him with the lead programming job and his little house in the snow :D

and I think it's awesome how he says he iz gonna work on syn3h. But im a bit confused. is he trying to say that it's better that we keep mars explorer opensource or not?

and the fact that we may transfer our accounts to the new forum iz sweet!!

I'm lookin' forward to teh future of Mars Explorer!!! :D
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/05/28 - 2:58 GMT
At this moment, going open source sounds like a sound option, but I still have concerns.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/05/28 - 3:11 GMT
Personally, I'm sad that we're going to be unable to develop for iOS. Nevertheless, Aubrey has been fantastic and granted most of our other wishes. Also, the fact that he intends to continue work on syn3h is great. After all, a bit of competition can't hurt ;)

Thanks go to Aubrey for creating a fantastic game, as always; and also for allowing us to continue with his work. I hope his career continues to be as good as it seems to be now.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
2 days - 7,530v
Posted 2013/05/28 - 3:07 GMT
Wow, this is great! Thanks to Aubrey for his response; it is great that he is in support of the continued progress of this game. Also, in my opinion, this game should remain open sourced unless that would cause serious security issues that are extremely difficult or impossible to work around.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/05/28 - 5:02 GMT
To my dearest Martians,
 
 
Here is a list of pros and cons that (_ACE_)+ and I created: 

Open-source

Pros:

- Knowledge is shared with the community

- The community can help develop

- Bugs and other problems can be found by the community  

Cons:

- The developers essentially lose ownership of all of their code and may not want to contribute some personal works. (e.g. (_ACE_)+'s private code for an in-game world editor would be left out.)

- Hacking is made much easier 

Closed-source

Pros:

- Very secure

- Developers retain ownership of their work

- Possible integration of other, closed-source projects

Cons:

- Knowledge remains in the hands of only the developers

- The community cannot help develop 

 
After much discussion, (_ACE_)+ and I have come to the conclusion that the best way to conduct development is indeed in a proprietary fashion (closed-source).
 
This is because we will retain all security that would be lost in an open-source environment. (We will not have to struggle with making sure private info is not released, either.) Additionally, we will have the comfort of developing privately with ownership and rights to our code. Unfortunately, with this method, community members cannot contribute to the project. This was considered before originally, which is why we are still going to release a working, stable version of the current Mars Explorer. Thus, the community will have a fully working Mars Explorer source as a developmental tool and backup.
 
 
Sincerely,
 
 
Eric
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/05/28 - 19:19 GMT
Add another con:
Smaller branches may be made from the open source making many small communities with many different variations of Mars Explorer, maki it confusing, complicated, and just messy. Look what happened to Free Rider.


But this is probably not going to happen to Mars Explorer.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/05/28 - 5:23 GMT
Now, onto the next major topic of discussion. We need to come up with a new name for the game. Afterwards, we can start designing logos for it.
 
So, if you were new to Mars Explorer, unaware of its name, what would you call it? Or if you have some totally bizarre names, share those too! Let's get thinking, people!
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
6 days - 21,100v
Posted 2013/05/28 - 5:47 GMT
oh mah goodness. trying to think of a name for Mars Explorer that isn't Mars Explorer?!?!? dat iz the definition of insanity right there. lol

hmmm I got nothin at teh moment. maybe somethin will come to me later. but no matter what name is used, I'll probably still call it mars explorer. :D
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
11 hours - 1,145v
Posted 2013/05/28 - 12:57 GMT
......Mars Explorer 3?  It's great to see Aubrey's not dead :P.  Can't wait for syn3h!
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/05/28 - 14:00 GMT
Cybuniverse?
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
2 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/05/28 - 19:22 GMT
Whirld Explorer.
 
Simple to remember, rolls off the tongue, describes the game very well.
 
 
 
All credit for this name goes to Kruncher, I'm simply posting a comment.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/05/28 - 19:58 GMT
I wanted that name originally too, but, unfortunately, Whirld is also a copyright name belonging to Aubrey.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/05/28 - 20:05 GMT
Hmm...

Syn3h was a good name but it was taken.

What was that site that Aubrey used for voting on names for Mars Explorer? We could use that again!
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/05/29 - 13:45 GMT
Or we can vote with survio. We need good names first.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
6 days - 21,100v
Posted 2013/05/29 - 14:19 GMT
survio?  idk what that iz but strawpoll iz where its at!    
 
a silly example that shows wat strawpoll looks like  http://strawpoll.me/72138
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/05/29 - 23:02 GMT
*must now make world called Buggy Bazaar*
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
8 hours - 855v
Posted 2013/05/29 - 14:18 GMT
Well first you need to define exactly what you want mars 3 to be and the name should be created to reflect that. Unless you've already done that and I missed a thread about it?
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 31,378v
Posted 2013/05/30 - 11:06 GMT
Uh just a favor but could someone break this down for me?
 
Doing me a huge favor, and when your older, you'll remember that you helped this boy :D
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 24,177v
Posted 2013/06/01 - 4:18 GMT
Nice to see that Aubrey is still breathing, although I can't say that I envy all that snow.
 
As far as another name goes, what about Exereventes? It's a play on the Greek word for "explorer" - the Greek spelling isn't anything I, or you guys, could probably read; but that's the gist of how it's pronnounced. Could always be shortened somehow.
 
Just a random thought brought about by a sleep-needy mind. ;)
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/01 - 4:42 GMT
That's a thought! We could come up with a name in another language. I personally like the latin word for "explorer" more than the greek one: inquirentium.
 
If anyone else has ideas for a new name, please share!
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/01 - 5:10 GMT
I think a kid friendly, catchy name could help.

Or an abbreviation of those
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/06/01 - 15:05 GMT
I thought 'Xenosphere' would be good, but that name has already been used multiple times according to google. :(
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/01 - 15:23 GMT
LanΔScape?
 
First off:
 
LAN scape, as in for LAN servers or online ;0
And LANDscape (Greek symbol for D)
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/02 - 16:21 GMT
We may need to apply numbers as letters, as Aubrey did with SYN3H! What we have so far:
TigerStorm Exereventes
CyberMan inquirentium
_ACE_ Xenosphere
PanzerAce LanΔScape
kruncher quadr4nt 3
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=quadr4nt+3
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/02 - 16:36 GMT
I think these names sound too sophisticated. Mars Explorer is a fun, catchy name in it's simplicity. Samller is bigger for games, catchy name: they click the link to play it. 
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
6 days - 21,100v
Posted 2013/06/02 - 22:03 GMT
i have to say that out of all the names proposed so far, i like quadr4nt 3 the best.  But maybe just call it Quadrants  or Quadrant3  or somethin like that.  
 
and also remeber with watever name you make up make sure it has a good nickname too!  like for example Mars Explorer.  we just call it mars.  and with Quadrants it would just be called  Quad.  
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
8 hours - 855v
Posted 2013/06/02 - 17:55 GMT
What about infinite space or reversed space infinite, maybe infinite continuum. Was surprised how that was spelt :P.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/02 - 21:03 GMT
The future name of this game is going to be World Explorer. It works, it's simple, and it makes for an easy transition for users upgrading from Mars Explorer. 
 
EDIT: Nevermind, the name World Explorer is used already. We are going to use Terrium (my next comment talks about it more).
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
8 hours - 855v
Posted 2013/06/02 - 21:06 GMT
Not as catchy using the proper spelling instead of whirld, shame. (I read the earlier comments I know aubrey trademarked it)
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/02 - 22:15 GMT
@officialspeeddemon - Not catchy at all but what a relief to have this part done!

@cheezburger - A search for quadrant 3 in correct spelling brings up too many results, hence the 4 but, oh well, the point is moot now.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/02 - 23:41 GMT
It turns out World Explorer is a taken name! Now, I am seriously considering using the name Terrium, which PanzerAce came up with using my previous suggestions. It'll be the Sci-fi galaxy where all the worlds exist for the game. It's short, simple to say, easy to remember, and it gives us an identity as "Terrians."
 
The name was inspired from the words "terra" and "explorer" in Latin. I'm not looking for everyone to love the name, but is it at least reasonable? Would you be a proud Terrian in the Terrium Galaxy?
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/02 - 23:54 GMT
Having come up, with Abister and Eric of course with this name during a brainstorm,I must say that I am behind it 100%!
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
4 days - 13,880v
Posted 2013/06/03 - 0:30 GMT
Hey man, it was my idea to use "Terra." : P 100% isn't correct!
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ABISTER MADE THIS! ITS A DRAFT
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/03 - 0:35 GMT
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
6 days - 21,100v
Posted 2013/06/03 - 0:39 GMT
ah Terrium!!  that is a rather good name i think.  i like how its rather short.  could even say Terr or somethin'.  and i like the identity Terrians.  remindes me of the Terran race in starcraft. which is my favorit race  :D  :P
 
 
 
and is Terrian pronunced Tare-e-an?  and Terrium Tare-re-um?  thats how i see it as 
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/03 - 0:42 GMT
I think I agree on the pronunciation, that's how I would say it. 
 
We made sure that it was far from the name Terran (Copyright)
 
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
8 hours - 855v
Posted 2013/06/03 - 0:23 GMT
I'm liking the name, just one small change I would suggest, add an n to make it 'Terriumn' it would be more of a small accent on the pronounciation and would sound like 'mn' in autumn. I just think that would sound better.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/03 - 0:26 GMT
I pronounce it like that anyways.
 
I think no N makes it look cleaner. 
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
4 weeks - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/03 - 2:46 GMT
Excellent!
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
6 days - 15,269v
Posted 2013/06/03 - 3:18 GMT
I can't say I like it (the name)...seems pretty vague.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
4 days - 9,791v
Posted 2013/06/03 - 9:41 GMT
Initially I wasn't so sure on the name. But I've grown to like it (Abister's awesome logo helped a lot lol)
 
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
6 days - 21,100v
Posted 2013/06/03 - 16:04 GMT
yeah i agree.  since dis be a rather big desion, we proably should get more opinions on it.  like at least make a post or somethin'. :P
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/03 - 14:51 GMT
Ibcf, the full title of the game may be "The Terrium Galaxy." Is that a little less vague?
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 day - 5,491v
Posted 2013/06/04 - 19:12 GMT
If I could suggest something - I second ibcf here, it's a bit vague, it doesn't really say anything about the game. Okay, take it from "terra" in latin - terra means "earth" or "land" - as in the land we're walking on, not lands as in countries or dominions; considering that's basically the opposite of what we're going for, that's odd. Plus 'Terrium' itself isn't technically derived from it, it's a created form. It sounds kind of cool, but I feel retaining some link to Mars is important.  "the full title of the game will be "The Terrium Galaxy."" Well that's three syllables longer than Mars Explorer and six longer than Syn3h...bit of a mouthful. And will it be? That sounds a bit certain.
 
And what cheezburger says - some sort of vote on names again, like was done a bit for Syn3h I seem to recall, would be good imo. But Abister's logo is really eye-catching.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 32,767v
Posted 2013/06/04 - 21:44 GMT
A group of Martians and I had spent weeks trying to come up with a name several months ago. For the past couple weeks now, we continued the process. We still could not come up with anything decent that used a celestial name or included a word such as "explorer." We had to make up our own name, like how Aubrey did with Syn3h.
 
Aubrey invented the name "Syn3h" because "it blends Synthesis (the combination of ideas into a unified system), Synthesize (the digital creation of something amazing), and Synthetic (a simulation or recreation of reality) with geeky, technical elements such as a number in a name." But the name holds this special identity only to him and the close followers of the project.
 
The same goes for Mars Explorer–it really does not tell one anything about the game, besides that it is Mars and exploration based (which it is not anymore). We developed the special identity of this game and associate it with the title: a game that offers no destruction, no realistic violence or death, no folklore or prescribed role-playing, and no purchases of armor or ammo. "The only game that combines high speed offroad adventure, fully aerobatic flight, and friendly first person multiplayer action with futuristic vehicles and fantastical extraterrestrial environments - and that can be played inside your web browser. Right now. For Free." All of that is not in the name. Mars Explorer is pretty vague then, wouldn't you agree? Most titles are.
 
Terrium is the name of the galaxy in which everyone creates and plays worlds. It uses the root "terr" from "terra," which can mean land–that suits this game more than using "Mars" because the land/terrain of the maps is not just Martian. Like Aubrey, here are my reasons for liking the name:
 
  • It sounds cool, professional, and mysterious
  • It is ambiguous, ensuring that it won't limit the future potential of what this game may someday become
  • Just like the game itself, it is unique
  • It is short, memorable, and easy to type
  • It uses the root of "terra," which is part of the definition for "land," "earth," "world," "territory," "terraform," etc. because of the theme of world creation. It can also be considered as the "Earth" of this game, the home.
  • It looks neat as a logo
 
Regardless, I'm not looking for a name that pleases everyone. Aubrey recognized that, and took a great deal of heat for it (http://marsxplr.com/view-5622). I will stay resolute with keeping Terrium in a similar way. During this time, I will still be listening to user feedback.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 week - 24,177v
Posted 2013/06/06 - 14:41 GMT
Me likey.
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 day - 4,967v
Posted 2013/09/25 - 1:20 GMT
Dear Aubrey,
 
*sigh* *shakes head*
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
4 days - 13,880v
Posted 2013/09/25 - 2:25 GMT
I don't see a "ACE can hack and get away with it because he doesn't represent or affect Terrium" written anywhere in there, does anyone else?
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Re: Aubrey's Message on the Future of Mars
1 day - 4,967v
Posted 2013/09/25 - 13:37 GMT
NOPE 
 
i didn't abister
 
 
 
though eric reassured me and said that it did. so im gonna disagree with you there.


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